Regulation Over Relaxation: The Stress Management Shift Every Mom Needs

As busy moms and entrepreneurs, we're constantly told to "just relax" or "take a day for yourself." But true stress management isn't about escaping your life, it's about becoming more resilient within it.✨

In this episode of The Mompreneur Collective, I sit down with Kimberly Thibeaux, Owner of Brain Injury Nurses of Acadiana, to unpack what nervous system regulation really means and why its one of the most important skills every mompreneur can develop. 

Together, we explore why regulation doesn't always mean slowing down, it means learning how to respond to stress in the way your body actually needs. Sometimes that looks like rest and other times it looks like movement, deep breathing, stepping outside for fresh air, or a simple therapeutic pause. 

We also discuss: 

• What it actually means to feel overstimulated as a mom and what to do when you get there
• The difference between down-regulating and up-regulating your nervous system
• Why three diaphragmatic breaths can literally signal safety to your brain
• How to recognize your own stress signals before it's too late 
• The different types of rest (physical, mental, emotional, sensory, and social) and how to know which one you need 
• Why scrolling, avoidance, and other "quick fixes" often leave us feeling even more depleted
• Simple, practical ways to regulate your nervous system that don't require a spa day or hours of free time

If you've ever felt like you're living in survival mode, constantly giving to everyone around you while you're running on empty, this conversation will leave you feeling seen, understood, and equipped with practical tools you can start using today. 

Because the goal isn't to eliminate stress all together... its to build the resilience to move through it with greater awareness, intention, and grace. 💛

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Welcome back to the Mom Purney Collective. I'm your host and certified life and business coach, Jamie Smith. And today I'm really excited to chat with our guest. Her name is Kimberly Tebow. She's the owner of Brain Injury Nurses of Acadiana, and she has so much knowledge around stress management and how to regulate your nervous system. And as busy mompreneurs, this is everything. So I think this is a conversation that's gonna be really impactful and really helpful in a lot of ways. So let's welcome her onto the show. So, Kimberly, welcome to the Mompreneur Collective. When we first spoke, you said something to me that absolutely floored me. You said, and we were talking about nervous system regulation, so let me give our listeners some context, but you said regulation does not mean relaxation. Regulation means resiliency. I feel like it was a mic drop moment or something when you said that, or just a huge awakening for me. I had never heard anybody explain it that way before. And it was just so like, yes, she's so right. And so can you just share more about that with our listeners what the whole idea is behind this? Because I think that that distinction between regulation meaning resiliency versus relax, I think that's a really important distinction for busy moms to make.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

Yeah, so whenever because of the way that the trends happen, so often it's like we need you people focus on um relaxation all the time, like always going to the spa or going to the vacation or we're escaping essentially. But whenever you look at nervous system regulation, it's more about resiliency. It's more about bringing yourself back into that window of tolerance. So your window of tolerance is your window of stress tolerance, how much you can handle. And so whenever it comes to resiliency, it doesn't mean that you're always downregulating. It doesn't mean that you're always going into some sort of relaxation because who can function that way? You can't really function if you're always, like let's say lavender, if you're always drinking lavender tea, you can't function. Your brain will be irritable because it's trying to keep up with the hustle and bustle, but yet the lavender is keeping it in a you know, in a more calm state all the time. So whenever we think about resiliency of the nervous system, it's more along the lines of saying, yes, sometimes we need to downregulate, which is relaxation, but then sometimes we need to take action and upregulate because we may be in that freeze state. So whenever we think going back to resiliency, what is resilient? Resilient is being able to cope, is being able to um regulate. And so instead of always putting the goal as comfort or relaxation or like that chronic spa day, then we that's because it's not real life, then we can say, okay, my goal is resiliency. So my goal is regulation. And so that's not to say I'm going to avoid everything that causes dysregulation. I'm just going to really learn my the language of my nervous system to where then I can respond appropriately, whether it's getting up and going for a walk or taking a few deep breaths. Or so you're it there's a difference between downregulation and upregulation.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Yeah, that was exactly what I was just about to ask or mention is I've actually never heard anybody say that term before, upregulation. So I think that's really interesting because yeah, I mean, like like we're talking about, it's just so important for us to know what we need to do for ourselves. And that doesn't always look like a whole day at the spa or needing to go take a nap or lay down and close our eyes, or whatever maybe a mom's go-to is when they feel frantic, when they feel like my nervous system is out of whack. Um, I talk to so many moms who say things like that frequently, like, I feel like I need to regulate my nervous system. I need I need to just relax. It's always having some kind of I need to relax. Their response to that is always thinking that they need quiet time, downtime, away time, like you mentioned, the escape. And so I think, gosh, it's so crucial what you just said is the upregulation might actually be what your body needs in that moment, not even the down regulation.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

And you know, whenever you said, you know, always going to take a nap, or you know, we have to also look at the different forms of rest. Because, you know, in the world of brain injury where I sit at this point is so often people are like, well, just go rest, just go sleep, you know, and so then same thing in motherhood. I know it's different than brain injury, but same thing in motherhood. If someone's always telling you rest, rest, rest, then you're chasing this nap that you chronically can't take. And so then we have to say, okay, what are the different types of rest? Because it's not just physical rest. You have emotional rest, you have sensory rest, you have um, there's a whole bunch of them, um, mental rest, emotional rest, social rest, all of these different types of rests. And um, whenever I want to touch on sensory rest, because us as moms and as entrepreneurs, there's so many things coming at us at every given moment. So then circling back to if we learn the language of our own intimate nervous system individually, then we know what type of rest we need. But for the sake of right now, let's talk about sensory rest. So in motherhood especially, you know, we have these, we have the cries, we have, and and our as mothers, our ears are tuned in to what our babies need. And so sometimes if we are so overstimulated and we're in that hyper-arouse state out of our window of tolerance, then our ears, like whenever, for instance, if you experience anxiety, your ears, mild anxiety is meant to help you because your brain is made to survive. So your ears are turned up, the volume is turned up. So now throw in a crying baby. While us as moms, we are innately trained, you know, intimately trained by motherhood to know what our babies need. But yet if we're in that state of anxiety, our senses are turned up. And so, what once is a tool for us to know what our baby needs, now it feels like it's audibly toxic and not in a way of that trendy word, like, oh, that's toxic, let me avoid it, or whatever. In that moment, it can be perceived as audibly toxic by your nervous system because your nervous system is like, my baby has so many needs, I have so many needs, what do I do in this moment? So then whenever we think of rest and we look at sensory rest, you can't, you can't just shut off your baby's cry with the light switch. But what you can do is turn down the lighting in your house. What you can do is let in a little bit of sunlight. What you can do is turn on music that is in that frequency that helps to rest that nervous system. So therefore you're setting up everything else in the environment, and then you don't need to control your baby's cry. Now you're not attached to that cry as being the one thing that needs to stop. And so then that's where we regulate is everything else. Yeah. And then our babies can co-regulate with us. Yeah. Or our four-year-old, seven-year-old, however old, our our kids can co-regulate with us because they're seeing, okay, the circumstance hasn't changed. The baby, the child, the tantrum is still there, the cry, whatever it is. But yet I'm taking care of me by doing all these other things. So I'm feeling nourished. Yeah. And then I can approach my my child in a way that is um more regulated. It's more in that window of tolerance. Because even a couple notches down towards your window of tolerance is a huge win. And I think that so often in this instant gratification society, we look at it as, well, if it's an all or nothing. And so a lot of times then we go to band-aids, what substances, um, avoidance, whether it's scrolling, different things that can be a band-aid and then it's a cheap way to try and regulate, but then we don't ever really feel the solution that comes in. So then if we get to know our nervous system intimately, then we can know the answers that it's truly asking for.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

Here's the big question of the day. How do you get to know your nervous system intimately?

SPEAKER_00 8:55

So the self-awareness is everything because whenever you think of how we experience the environment, you have your sensations, you have your thoughts and your emotions on your full experience. And so what comes first? Sometimes it can be, well, it's the chicken before the egg, like what really comes first. But I'd like to challenge that your sensory comes first. Because whenever you, like let's say you're going on a date, you feel the butterflies, or you're about to do something really exciting, you have that sensory experience that then it's the bottom up. So then your body is telling your mind, hey, something's going on, whether it's perceived positive or negative, it's still a stressor. So then we have to say, okay, this is a stressor, whether it's positive or negative, our body's telling our brain, then it goes to your thoughts. Then the thoughts can cycle as, okay, this is bad or this is good or whatever it may be. Put some sort of label on that. And then comes the emotion to what to the reaction of what that thought or what that label is. And so then whenever you're trying to learn the language of your nervous system, it's really being able to be so intimate with the internal language of like what is my body doing at what any given moment? It's a self-awareness.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

Yeah, listening to your stress signals, getting to know what those are.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Yes. It's those that it's that inner awareness. Like if, and I always use the baby cry because postpartum, everything is kind of turned up. So, us as moms, and I mean, even in entrepreneurship, whenever it's all new, everything in our senses are turned up. So then it's kind of amplified. And in those states, that's the best time to be able to learn that inner that self-awareness of how your body's reacting to whatever is going on in the environment. And then it's to say at that point, what helps? So then you try different things.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

It's trial and error.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

You say, okay, does this type of song work or does this type of smell work for aromatherapy? Because I mean, in your brain, the olfactory is really close to your amygdala. And so that's why aromatherapy works so much. So that can be something that you try. Whenever it comes to um deep breathing, so often breath work is, you know, it's really simple, but sometimes in different modalities of um of practice, there can be so many different complex ways of looking at it. But breathing in itself, three deep breaths, three diaphragmatic breaths, which using that diaphragm to really um trigger that that um message to your brain that says, okay, I'm not in danger. There's no tiger that's that's chasing me. My baby's cry is not something that I have to um react to. It's just it's this way, exactly. It's a natural part of what the baby's experiencing. I don't have to be attached to it, it's not dangerous for, you know, because essentially that's the way that our brain is triggering that alarm is because it's saying, oh, it's out of safety, whether it's your emotional safety. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Reacting to that.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Yeah, so important. What I hear in all of it is you saying, control what you can control. Seems like it's really important to remember to control what you can because obviously you cannot control your baby crying. And so in that moment, you have a choice to pause, to tap into your awareness, to ask yourself what's going on and to think about what might help me here. Like she's saying, whether it be open a window, get some sunlight, get some aromatherapy going, um, put some gentle music on that helps you get into a better frequency. But those are all things that you can control. And like she alluded to earlier, by doing this before you approach your crying baby, it allows you to show up as the mom you more want to be in that moment versus the mom who is impatient, frustrated, and dysregulated, like we're talking about here today. And so, yeah, so are there any, I mean, you just mentioned one, like the deep breaths, but are there any tips or tricks, things up your sleeve that you could recommend to the busy moms out there? This is a podcast for moms that are entrepreneurs, and so they definitely don't have all the time in the world to go to a spa. And we're saying you don't need that anyway. So there's that. But what are some things that the busy moms can do? Just when they are, here's the term we use, uh we hear all the time, overstimulated. Yeah. I feel like I see that being so like you said, toxic is kind of one of those like trendy words, so is overstimulated. Like, what does that actually mean? And when we are overstimulated, what do we do? What can we do in those short little spurts of time that we have in between the emails and the baby crying?

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Yeah. I think that that is um, it's both in entrepreneurship and in motherhood is is really working on our self-awareness in any given situation. Um, and trial and error. Everything is about trial and error. So we talked about um the sensory rest. That's something that is that is if that's where that stressor is starting, then those are immediate things that you can do is okay, sensory-wise, what is overstimulating? Is it the brightness of the light? Is there a smell that is bothersome? Is there a noise that is bothersome? Is it too dark? Is it too bright? You know, all those things of evaluating that sensory experience in that moment and then changing the things that are off-putting, doing whatever you can control in that moment. What about against your kids that are overstimulating? So then, well, yeah. And so it's then in that moment, then it's like, okay, what can I control? And so for me, it's like my oldest, whenever um he was my first baby, whenever I had that first experience, I all would always put on a certain type of music. And so it's helping our kids to be self-aware too. Because if he like at certain points, if he's overstimulated, like he will ask Alexa to turn on a certain music because it's we're co-regulating together. So in that moment, if the kids are overstimulated, then it's really evaluating. I mean, us too. Did we eat? Are we hydrated? Is that there too much screen time? Because a lot of the the way that screens are nowadays, like movies, shows, everything, it's so much stimulation for our brain to take in at one time. And so, nine times out of ten, if we give our senses a break by turning the radio off or turning the TV off and turning the radio on because you need something less visual and more audible, it's just trial and error in that moment of what is what is causing the dysregulation in that moment. And then can you do the opposite?

SPEAKER_01 15:44

So good, such good stuff, girl. Loving this conversation. Hey mama, quick pause in the episode. If you're loving this conversation too, do me a favor, pause the show for two seconds and be sure you're subscribed so that you never miss an episode. So go hit that plus sign, add it to your library, hit that follow button, or do whatever you gotta do because I don't know what brought you here for this episode specifically, but if you're enjoying it so far, I just know you're gonna love listening to the other amazing conversations that we have here. All right, now hit that pause button and go subscribe. I'll wait. By the way, have y'all heard the crazy thunder in the background throughout this episode today? The weather has been wild here as we recorded today. Okay, now back to the show. All right, Kimberly. So now I'm gonna switch gears on you. I want you to share what's been the hardest part for you personally when you reflect back on you shared with me before that you were both a new mom and a new business owner at the same time. And I've talked to a lot of entrepreneurs who are either find themselves in that boat accidentally or they on purpose, because we're all crazy a little bit as entrepreneurs, they on purpose put themselves in that position. So looking back, what do you wish you had understood better about nervous system regulation when you look back on that stressful period of time for you?

SPEAKER_00 17:18

So for me, I I think it was what you said earlier about the difference between upregulation and down regulation. Because whenever I opened up my first business and I was a first-time mom, so that was about eight, you know, seven and a half, almost eight years ago. I was not at that point where I realized I was just chasing the comfort. I was chasing the relaxation, I was chasing the down regulation all the time. And being postpartum and experiencing postpartum anxiety and postpartum depression in that first round, because of the newness, it's like I did not realize how much I needed to pay attention to the signs, pay attention to what my day-to-day looks like, and is that therapeutic or not? So I always call it, am I having therapeutic days? Because really and truly going back to okay, well, resiliency, if we are saying that um we're always chasing that spa day, which is what I was trying to do in that first after my first baby and opening up my first business. And I was chasing that. And now in hindsight, I realize that it was actually just exacerbating everything more because I was idolizing this comfort, this yeah, this perception of what it needed to look like or how it needed to feel this luxury you couldn't. Exactly. This euphoric experience that it just wasn't attainable. And so now in hindsight, which I'm grateful that, um, and we're always called to the work that we need the most, right? And so, you know, through this journey of doing my own work and then also building a business around it as well, it's like I was able to learn, like, no, upregulation is just as important as down regulation. So I stopped chasing the down regulation. I stopped chasing this level of comfort or this the chronic spa day. You know, while it's very important, I do want to speak to tactile stimulation and how important it is to get massages and how important it is, because that is also very important for the body. And that is also everything has its purpose. Exactly. Everything has its purpose. But if we're chasing, just like for runners, if they I've had a client who was like running as my therapy. So if just like as runners or the chronic spa person, like we can't we can't escape through those things because then it becomes less therapeutic of a of a coping mechanism. Then it becomes maladaptive because we're attaching it to it in a in a negative way. And so back then, if I would have known that, I feel like I would have been more resilient and less chasing what I thought I needed versus actually what I needed. And so that's why I say that the most important part is learning your inner systems the best way that you can. So self-awareness and self-care, you know, is the the main things that in hindsight, I wish I would have realized. Because I don't think that I would have struggled as long as I did that first time around. And that's for momming and entrepreneuring, because for so, you know, for so many of us in motherhood and in entrepreneurship, we're givers and we're just like, we're gonna give it everything that we have, but at what cost? So then we have to really take a therapeutic pause and saying, okay, what is actually healthy? What is healthy for me, what is healthy for my family, and what is healthy for the business? Because if we are not mindful, and I mean, look, that's a battle that still fast forward that I think we probably all go through, is because the the balance is forever changing. You know, it it's not something that you're you're like a man on the moon, you put plant the flag and you're just like, okay, we did it. No, it's something that is the constant journey. Yeah. And so in hindsight, too, is just understanding back then that it's a marathon, it's not a sprint. So it's something that needs to be evaluated just as much as your numbers and just as much as you know, within your family. That that inner self-care, that inner self-wisdom, the inner self-awareness is just as important to look at quarterly or monthly or daily as any other thing.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Yeah. Yeah. So good. Thank you for sharing. And I don't know if you gave examples of this already. Please tell me shut up if you did. But what are some examples of upregulation? So it'd be like the running, like as an example.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Yes. And so it depends on what your body is needing. So the upregulation, like if you're If you have a decision that you need to make in your business and you just feel frozen, go and take a walk. Your body is activating those muscles and it's it's moving. So you're upregulating out of that freeze. And so same thing with our with our children, you know, sometimes we are so uncomfortable or something's going on that we're we're frozen, you know, the the whole notion of like the nap trapped or like there's these moments that we can surrender into that that moment that we could use that extra bit of um stillness, but then also on the flip side is saying, okay, how do we maneuver to get that moment in that, to get that movement in that moment? So, like for instance, if we feel frozen and we are nap-trapped and we have our minds just going, going, going to upregulate the body to help down regulate the mind is you know, doing a round of three deep breaths, three deep breaths, letting the body know it's okay. We're not in this fight, we don't have to be in this fight or flight state. And then just doing gentle movements while your baby's on you. It can be the most random thing, just something so your body tells your brain we're giving it what it needs. It doesn't have to look pretty, it doesn't have to be scheduled, it doesn't have to be pristine, it just has to be something that tells your body, hey, we're good. We are, we're, we're where we are, we're where we need to be, and we're safe. Because the brain's made duty is the protector. So whether it's perceiving um, whether it's perceiving danger mentally, physically, or emotionally, it's going to respond. It's going to react. So the goal is however that looks in that moment, whether it's through business or motherhood, it's the trial and error again. There's no like right or wrong way. Yeah. It's just doing whatever is needed.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Yeah. With the three deep breaths thing, I feel like, you know, we've all heard that, right? Like if you're stressed out, you've got anxiety, take a few deep breaths. But can you explain a little bit more of the science behind that so that people that maybe don't understand why those deep breaths are so effective, maybe give it another shot if they've tried before, or maybe just, you know, they didn't feel the the benefits of doing so, maybe they weren't doing it properly because there is a right and a wrong way to take those deep breaths, even. So can you talk a little bit more about that?

SPEAKER_00 24:22

So the purpose, like, you know, let's whenever you're taking a deep breath, is it's important to slowly in through your nose and slowly out through your mouth, like you're blowing your birthday candles out, but not so forceful. And honestly, taking your exhale being a little bit more longer than your inhale is also very relaxing to the nervous system. Um, but if we are just scientifically, a lot of times whenever we go into those stress states, we're only utilizing the top lobes of our lungs, and your oxygen exchange is at mainly at the bottom. Yes. So whenever we take those deep breaths, you're actually oxygenating your body better, and your diaphragm is sending messages to your brain that it's not in danger.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yes, that when you look at a baby and they're breathing, because we all watch our babies sleep. Yeah, where do you see their breath? Where is their breath moving? And it's in their bellies. You see their bellies going up and down, up and down. But when you think about where you feel your breath moving as an adult, it's absolutely in your upper chest. And we stay up there all the time. And so when we pause and we take that moment to actually fill our bellies up with the air, we now have this proper exchange happening, which, like she's saying, is allowing your body to understand, like, okay, everything is okay. It's giving it exactly what it needs to know that, like, I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

I do want to say too, so our brains, the science behind neuroplasticity, that's something that I think everybody needs to look up after this podcast. Neuroplasticity takes time. And on that side, whenever we're trying to make changes, we have to understand that. Because whenever I first started, you know, whenever someone told me that about in my journey of healing, whenever I learned about the three deep breaths and the signs behind it, it's almost like it had the reverse effect. I was then stressing because I'm like, am I doing it right? Am I good? And so then it's like understanding too that neuroplasticity takes time. So that first time it may not feel like this whole blissful moment, but it's going to take time of you doing the repetition because the brain, the neurons have to re-rewire to know that you're taking these deep breaths, and it's something that is helping you to feel the safety, the emotional, mental, and physical safety. Because essentially that's what your body's going through. Even though there's no tiger chasing after you, your body is perceiving that there is a real threat and the body doesn't know the difference. So we have to train it to be able to say, okay, there's no need for the alarm. But yeah, so neuroplasticity, and I would like to say, whenever it comes to our lung function, it's almost like a balloon. So if you're so used to breathing in your top lobes of your lungs for so many years and you suffer with chronic anxiety and all these things, your lungs like a balloon. So, you know, whenever you get a new balloon from the store and like you're having to stretch it, you're having to, because at first it may be difficult to get it all the way down to your lower lobes. So it's important to keep going. It's almost like you're exercising your lungs to be able to be more flexible and to be able to tolerate those big deep breaths. So glad you shared all that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Because I feel like I've I mean, you've probably heard it too, but I've heard mom say, Oh, I've done that, it doesn't work. And it's probably because they tried it once and didn't have the effect they wanted, so they didn't try again. So keep going, try again. It takes building a muscle.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

The first time that whenever I remember whenever I first learned about this, if this was whenever I was still working bedside nursing, and I I had, you know, my first baby, I just had I was fresh postpartum, going back to work, and I was the anxiety was high and all these things, and I was so pissed because I was like, this is not working on me. Can I just breathe right? You know, and then it's like I realized through time, your body has to, it has to be aware that you're doing this to help it to understand safety. And innately, it's going to feel some level, it may be fractional at first. It's gonna feel some level of that shift, some level of safety, but it's not gonna be this aha moment until you keep practicing and you keep doing it and you keep telling yourself through the actions that you're giving your body that this is self-care, we are okay, we, you know, we can continue on, we can return to baseline or we can return to that window of tolerance.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Yeah. And maybe something that can help with that, you know, for moms that are like, well, what do I, what should I be focusing on? Like obviously, like like you said, focus on breathing in through your nose and out through your breath, but maybe also to help you with that neuroplasticity is thinking some thoughts in tandem with that. So maybe it's thinking, I am safe. Yes, I'm good, I'm I'm loved, I'm exactly where I need to be, whatever some sort of mantra is that you can come up with to just repeat as you're taking those deep breaths, because that will be part of what helps to train your brain to know that these deep breaths have a purpose. Exactly. And it's to make you feel safer and bring you back.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

To um, grounding is very helpful too. So if you have the availability, you know, go stick your feet in some grass, get some fresh air outside, the sunlight, everything that essentially calms those senses down. And by calms, I don't mean like, you know, calms it down. I don't mean necessarily the just relaxation. I mean because it can awaken those senses. So let's just say it brings it back into balance. It's a different kind of it's a kind, it's a different kind of calm. It's like a contentment. The grounding creates that contentment in your body to where it's like, I'm content in this moment, I'm present in this moment. And so that can also help facilitate the brain to come online with okay, she's doing something that's purposeful for me for self-care, and that's helping me to move forward.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Yes, yes. Have you ever heard about the splashing cold water on your face? So effective.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

So either that's yeah, so splashing cold water on your face or even cold water on your inner wrist because it helps for your vague, like it helps to switch your vagus nerve, like the um from in that fight or flight to your vagus nerve, switches it to helping you to calm that down, to break that cycle of stress.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Yeah, so interesting. Yeah, interesting stuff. Well, Kimberly, share about your business with us. Amazing business.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

Yeah. So I am I specialize in brain injury um and neurodisorders because everything that we've talked about, whenever it comes to the disease process and post-injury, there's so much that people are blunted in the dis-ease because we can't look at illness as, you know, oh, it just happened upon us, which brain injury a lot of times is a sudden event, but the dis-ease that comes after it, we have to bring it back into balance, bring it back into ease. And so this resiliency that we've been talking about, all it, it, it's so effective whenever it comes to helping people get off of those plateaus, whether it's in therapy or whether they feel like, okay, I've had an injury and this is all that I'm capable of, these are my limitations. A lot of times there's still some left in the, in the, you know, in the bucket for them to be able to progress. It's just the nervous system is still firing on safety. And so then if we help them to be aware and and help them to get into that regulation, then it can help them to optimize their abilities post-injury and with any kind of like neurological disorder. Because, too, other neurological disorders that occur, um, sometimes it's the way that the mind and body is communicating. And so then the pains can be more or the way that the body is experiencing inflammation or anything like that. It's because that alarm system is still stuck on. So, yeah, so through brain injury nurse Civicadiana, um, and I also am co-owner of Neuro Collective, we serve brain injury population and the neuro um disorder population um through nursing outpatient therapy, all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

Yeah. Brain injury is so specific. What led you to that?

SPEAKER_00 32:23

So um a little bit about so I used to do coaching for um stress management and more mental emotional trauma. Yeah. So I used to do more coaching to for the mental emotional trauma. And then I realized that um actually you know, brain injury in this way is very underserved. And a lot of people who are walking around post-concussion were even if you had a concussion in your high school years, like we're walking around and thinking that we have high anxiety, depression, all these things, but really it's just the body's inability to regulate because it's still firing as unsafe. So whenever I realize how underserved this population is and how many people have had negative impacts on their nervous system, then it was like, okay, now I can help a broader population and niche down a little bit more. So that's what shifted me into specialized um nursing through brain injury and neurodisorders because I saw how well it worked with that was focused more on the emotional and mental trauma. Now on that, you know, physiological trauma. It helps holistically, like it helps all in all, you know. So yeah, so that's what brought me here.

unknown 33:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

What an amazing purpose-driven business.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

Where can people go to find out more about your business or about you? So um I am on Instagram at uh B IN Acadiana um and Facebook. Sam, you can look up Brandon Jr. Civic Acadiana, and then my website, www.binnacadiana.com. Awesome. Um, and then they can always call too at 337-361-0074. I'm always doing um just little consultation calls too, like a little 15-minute um consultation call for free that just helps people to understand, okay, what is it that I'm struggling with? What do I need? And honestly, I'm big on resources. So even if I can't be of assistance, I'll help you find a resource that can, because we have a vast, you know, um web of providers whenever it comes to mental health, emotional health, and you know, you know, good neurological care in town.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Yeah, love that. Yeah. Awesome. Well, Kimberly, if there is a mom listening right now who's just constantly in survival mode, gentling the kids, the business, all the things, what's the first step for her so that she can start to feel more resilient and more regulated in her life?

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Man, that's a that's a big one.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

First step, make it make it a baby step, right? Because we want this to be something doable for moms.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Go walk outside, go awaken the senses, go feel that little blip, that little glimmer. You know, so I've heard so many people talk about glimmers and go feel that glimmer of fresh air and groundedness. Put your feet in the grass, get some sunlight with your baby, with your kids, with the the emails, whatever you have to, bring it with you so that way you can re you know, normalize the chaos and the contentment.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

Normalize the chaos and the contentment.

unknown 35:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Cheers to that. Yeah. Kimberly, this has been such an amazing conversation. Thank you so much for being here today. I genuinely cannot wait for moms to hear this one. I feel like I'm gonna have all of my listeners or friends that listen text to me, being like, this was such a good one. I needed to hear this. I just can't wait for that, and I'm gonna let you know when they do. Um, but just cheers to raising humans and building something meaningful. And you guys better connect with her on social, follow her, check out her business, because she's an amazing human. Thank you. Thank you for having me. This is great. Hey mama, if you enjoyed today's episode, please share it with another mom purduer who needs to hear it. If you want to find out more about Kimberly and her amazing business, check out all the links in this episode's show notes. And if you yourself, Mama, are constantly feeling overwhelmed and just stressed all the time with life and business and motherhood, the work that I do on a daily basis is helping mom preneurs just like you create more balance in their lives and more ease and flow in their businesses so that they can thrive in both motherhood and entrepreneurship. So if you're interested in learning more, you can book your complimentary discovery call with me by using the link down in the show notes as well. Until next time, y'all.